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Homelessness in SPB?

 
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robheb
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Joined: 12 Feb 2005
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Location: New York City

PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:56 am    Post subject: Homelessness in SPB? Reply with quote

Hello.

I am visiting SPB for just two days: 19 and 20 February. I have never traveled to Russia.

I am always interested in the homeless and/or disenfranchised populations of the places to which I travel. I communicate with them as much as language barriers allow and do what I can financially to make at least a few hours of their lives more pleasant.

Is there a gathering place of sorts that would be safe for an American to visit and meet some people I could assist with modest financial gifts? Women and children ideally. I am talking about gifts of $10 or $20 USD and I enjoy giving the money directly to the individuals.

I will be staying at the Angleterre. All input appreciated.

Thank you.
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MikeFlorida
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Joined: 26 Mar 2005
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Location: Orlando Florida USA

PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to be rude but I think you will find few Russians will find your post offensive. I am American and I KNOW we give gifts to unfortunates(I do too) but you will find most Rfs dont take kindly to any suggestion that there are homeless people in their city. It is a throwback to pre glastnost times in my opinion when if you SAID something didnt exist..it OFFICIALLY didnt exist(get it?)My friends in SPB took a very dim view of beggers, the disabled AND handouts.

That said officials in SPB have more or less kept beggers away from tourist areas. In an entire summer I only found them at Alex Nevskogo Convent and in front of the bus stop area on Liteny north of Nevsky Pr. at a church whose name escapes me at the moment.

I was however approached by soldiers,,daily,,asking for money.keep in mind MANY workers and soldiers have not been paid in months...so even IF you give a gift, be discreet about it.
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Vic
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Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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Location: Moscow, Russian Federation

PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MikeFlorida wrote:


I was however approached by soldiers,,daily,,asking for money.keep in mind MANY workers and soldiers have not been paid in months...so even IF you give a gift, be discreet about it.


Well, the fact that someone has a camoflauge clothing does not mean he is a soldier. Real soldiers do get paid on time, they may want more, but they will never go begging for money on the streets. The people you are referring to just want to make some cash. You should never give money to beggars in the metro or on the streets. The fact is, these guys rake in so much money that they only work every other day. They do not need the money that you give them. Most of them work for someone and their cut is not 100% like you assume. If you want to be a good someritan, buy some gifts for an orphanage, although they can live without handouts and gifts there, it is still pleasant for kids to recieve presents. Also, do NOT give money for women that have a baby in their hands on the metro, its the same story as the 'soldier', same thing with the old granny.
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MikeFlorida
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assure you they WERE soldiers. If you think everyone in RF is getting paid "on time" you are way out of touch..
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Paul Holmes
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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MrSpice
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul Holmes must be Sherlock Holmes' relative.
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Paul Holmes
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blaked
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Joined: 29 Dec 2004
Posts: 180
Location: Moscow

PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A great 10-20 dollar gift for a homeless Russian is a bag of heroin. These are generally easy to come by and can be exchanged for other useful things (televisions, clothing, sex) by people in need, who consider heroin part of their every day life. Clean needles are also available without a prescription, but gift wrapping is usually not available.
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Vic
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Joined: 29 Mar 2005
Posts: 298
Location: Moscow, Russian Federation

PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assure you that they were not soldiers on active duty. And you should get your facts straight if you think they were not getting paid on time! They GET PAID ON TIME but they don't get paid much. Different things. If you are talking about soldiers (serving their 2 years) asking for cigarettes, than you should be too worried Wink
Vic
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nicmac
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Joined: 28 Nov 2004
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Location: Australia

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2005 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
I found there were more beggars in Montreal and New York City, than St Petersburg. It is not for me to comment on the lack of sensitivity of your request, nor on how or why you do what you do with your "charity" .... but I would give the money to an orphanage or other similar organisation.
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