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Xela
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surfgirl,
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I can go on and on but that is an example of how and where from people migrate...and where the RUS came from. Next I can go into where did the Phonecians and Hebrews come from-well that would be the Israelites. And where did they come from...well that takes us back to Babylon and Samaria-and where are they located well that would be present Day Iraq-next to Iran. So if one studies the migratory paths of peoples-he can learn where they came from and went to. You got into it once before over Palestine which you were and probably still are clueless about so really maybe talk on subjects you know about. You must have something interesting to offer? |
You are the one who is clueless:
1. Palestinians and Israelis are Arabs.
2. RUS were mainly from Belarus.
3. Forget about Samaria and Babylon, the Early Summeric Dynasty is the one you need to be talking about.
Yes there are those in Iran who have Arab blood in them(but no more than Spaniards, Italians and Greeks and even Ukrainians) but you couldn't have been to the northern half of Iran because then you would have reported a greater frequency of fair hair and eyes.
You have a little knowledge on the Viking situation and their travels to their friends in the Middle East, but I stress on the 'little'.
Persians, as any educated person knows, are the orginal Aryans of the Iranian plataeu mixed with Nordic tribes.
Hence why they don't like to be mistaken as Arabs or have any credit taken away by Hindus culture etc.
True Aryans were never blond hair, blue eyes. Those people were merely the peoples from Northern Scandinavia. There's every evidence to suggest the true Aryans were either red or brown or dark haired. |
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surfguy
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| What are you talking about? Scandanavians are in no way linked to arabs and actually are descended from the Northern Israelite tribe of Dan-Hence Denmark, Scan-Dan-navia, Dan-ube, Israelites are not arabs-sure today as you mention yes a lot of greeks, Italians, and Israelis have arab genes but this wasn't necessarily the case 6,000 years ago. And sorry the original RUS do not come from Belarus-You should study the Parthians and from those people you can learn about how and where a lot of this migration took place-of course it spans over a good period of time. Parthia actually was more powerful then Rome and Rome could never conquer it. These people left out of Israel and settled in central asia (Armenia, Georgia, Uzebekistan, and that area) before moving up into:Russia, Western Europe, and Scandanavia-they are the whole reason as to why white people are called caucasians. They settled in the caucus mountains. Of course this happened over a lot of generations but still it was primarily the same people (all cousins) Also there is a lot of info on the web on lost tribes of israel-check those out. Be open minded to history and forget about politics of today. Archaeology and facts of history is what is important. |
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Xela
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LOL!!
PARTHIANS = PERSIANS!!
Parthian Empire = Persian Empire(at least you know who was superior over all others).
I never said Israelis were Scandinavians! Modern Israelis are Arabs! (BTW Russian Jew is not the same as Israeli whom are Sephardic. Plus all Jews originally(the ones you claim have links to Scandinavians) came out of Persia anyway which you'd know if you read your bible/torah)
All I said was that Persians were Scandinavian tribes mixed with Aryans of the Iranian plateau.
Look:
http://www.churchoftrueisrael.com/pgr/pgr-2.-14.html
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surfguy
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| Persians took over Parthia-it doesn't make them the original Parthians. Jews are Israelites but not all Israelites are jews. Yes today many Iesraelis have Arab genes. Scandanavians and Aryians might have later mixed with persians-but they didn't start as persians. It's different mixing at different times. |
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Xela
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| Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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Look surfguy let's cut to the chase.
Parthia is where Persia is today. Parthians are Persians. Maybe not down to the last genetic detail, but they are an Iranian people.
Yes, not all Israelites are Jews, but all Jews and all Israelites originally started their journey as Hebrews moving west from Iran therefore Sephardic and even Ashkenazim can be considered as Iranian peoples.
Aryans didn't start out as Persians, no(because it takes Aryan + Scandinavian to make Persian), but Aryans DID start life in the area what we call Iran today. Hence why they decided to call it Iran(('Land of Aryan') a few years ago and not something else.
My point being is that you are not going to find another single people who have contributed more to the Russian Slavic race, be it linguistically, religiously, culturally, or genetically, than the Iranian people. |
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surfguy
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http://www.livius.org/pan-paz/parthia/parthia01.html
Ok Parthians existed before the Persians conquered them...What i am getting at is the fact of who are the Parthians originally. Yes they are Aryans who like you say the Iranians are descended from. But there is a difference between aryans and persians. We are talking about root people and not later when all these peoples inter mixed because in one period or another they conquered and re conquered each other. |
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Xela
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Ok so we're talking root people doesn't take away the fact that Parthians came from the area known as Persia and historically at least, will always be considered Persians.
In any event, do you think that there's really that much difference between the Parthians and the Medes?
We're talking about basically the same people here. The people that gave us civilisation and ancestors of the people who today occupy all of Europe. |
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madhavan
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| Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 5:47 pm Post subject: Hi Xela |
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Hi Xela,
I am just curious about your nationality. Are you an Iranian or Russian?
I haven't been able to catch up with what's going on in this group for a while now. But your information about the origin of Russians was very useful.
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Xela
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Very good website, surfguy.. 
madhavan,
I'm glad my information proved useful.
I am King of Kings. |
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charles
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| Xela wrote: | | I am King of Kings. |
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Fire_Goddess
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| charles wrote: | | Xela wrote: | | I am King of Kings. |
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This narrows it down to 8 possibilities:
1.)Egyptian
2.)Persian
3.)Indian
4.)Turkish
5.)Mongolian
6.)Georgian
7.)Ethiopian
8.)Zulu |
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charles
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| Fire_Goddess wrote: |
This narrows it down to 8 possibilities:
1.)Egyptian
2.)Persian
3.)Indian
4.)Turkish
5.)Mongolian
6.)Georgian
7.)Ethiopian
8.)Zulu |
I think you forgot one:
Jesus Christ was also given the title "King of Kings". |
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Fire_Goddess
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| charles wrote: | | Jesus Christ was also given the title "King of Kings". |
I left Jesus Christ out of it due to it being sacrilegious.  |
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madhavan
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 5:08 am Post subject: Interesting website |
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I just happened to step upon an interesting website www.india.ru. I am getting my friend's help in understanding some of its features. Does anyone know its English mirror site?
Cheers. |
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