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mediashark Moderator
Joined: 04 Nov 2004 Posts: 1601
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:01 pm Post subject: Re: Schools to avoid |
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| maruss wrote: | | Oxford Crown by Nagatinskaya metro.Read my postings about it on moscowteachers.com under language school reviews. |
http://www.moscowteachers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=155&sid=48f8b9a300eaa7c7b9cad08167839992
Thanks for sharing!
Fellas, don't forget, there is still crazy stuff going on at language schools--please be careful. Make sure you keep up with your paperwork, make sure you get paid, have some back-up plan etc. I personally know teachers who have been caught in similar situations and it really sucks. |
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yorbcbud Lounge Wizard
Joined: 17 Feb 2006 Posts: 4919 Location: Сорренто, Британская Колумбия, Канада
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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Here's my two cents worth. Helen says that she's been in business for 15 years. That means she's gone an awful long time without a complaint, especially is the first one was in 2005. So, yes, something is fishy there, maybe not only with the school. If you heard something first hand from someone with personal experience , then that is somewhat legitimate, although it could still be a disgruntled employee. But to just chime in with the intent to cause harm to someone is just wrong.
It's certainly possible that she is as bad as some people claim, but only the people who know about it, or personally know people who know about it should be commenting. Mediashark says she knows someone with personal experience, so her thoughts are legitimate. Vitaliy is just running off, with no experience at all, therefore his statements are not required at all. |
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vitalsigns Lounge Wizard
Joined: 25 Dec 2004 Posts: 2784
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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This sounds interesting:
| Quote: | They are advertising for freelance teachers at $20 per hour again on the tefl.com site.This either means their business must have expanded phenomenally and they need more staff or the ones they had have left or been fired without warning!I will leave everyone to judge which from the above postings......
Mind you,if you have an aptitude and masochistic liking for teaching tired,unruly kids in state schools around Moscow and also the 'New Russians' off-spring at their office, you could do worse by earning $700 per month with one of the sweat-shop schools I suppose! |
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surfguy Lounge Wizard
Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 6996
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:08 am Post subject: |
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| I'm giving everyone the benefit of the doubt since I am not directly involved....but what media says is reason enough for concern |
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rodriguez Just Starting
Joined: 03 Apr 2007 Posts: 1
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:21 am Post subject: Samantha School experience |
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I hesitate to extend this discussion because it seems to be "dragging on " a bit. However, I have worked at Samantha School for three-plus years and would disagree with the description of it as a "dishonest" school. It's not for me to judge other people's experiences, so I will only share my own:
I have never had trouble getting paid. I also have never been docked pay for being late (which has happened more often than I want to admit) or been denied a request for time off, even for weeks at a time.
I have always had my own visa, but Helen has never asked or even suggested that I change it to Samantha School.
Helen has asked me to work additional hours numerous times. When possible/convenient I have said yes, and when I have refused, Helen has accepted this with no questions asked.
On the negative side, I think the school expects a lot (maybe too much) from people with no experience or genuine interest in teaching. Teachers are expected to produce daily lesson plans, create and administer tests and write evaluations for students. This is not the best place for people who just want to make some easy cash.
It also is true that I have seen Helen treat employees harshly, usually in times of stress (e.g., end of term) or after they have pushed her buttons for whatever reason. But it is her school--no one can complain to her boss because she IS the boss--welcome to the real world. And among the many bosses I have had, she hardly ranks among the most demanding or difficult.
P.S. I would have posted this sooner but my log-in activation got caught by my spam filter and it took me a while to register. |
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surfguy Lounge Wizard
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:36 am Post subject: |
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| well there we have it...take the good with the bad...and I guess for those seeking temporary employment at any place...hey accept it for what it is and move on...but for those who seek to make a career at it then sure why not work to make what ever necessary changes. And to be honest we all react5 differently to different people and work well with some and not with others...it's life. Good luck to anyone and good luck to the Samantha School |
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Generation P WayToRussified
Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 319 Location: SHE WENT TO BARCELONA!
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:14 pm Post subject: Re: Samantha School experience |
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| rodriguez wrote: |
On the negative side, I think the school expects a lot (maybe too much) from people with no experience or genuine interest in teaching. Teachers are expected to produce daily lesson plans, create and administer tests and write evaluations for students. This is not the best place for people who just want to make some easy cash.
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But hwat you've just described, is just the normal techer day-to-day work no matter where you are! Teaching is hard work and the only difference is that in some countries salaries of teachers have nothing to do with the hard work your teachers have done to you. Only thing I can say is that during the time teaching becomes easier because you get used to it and know how to build your authority and presence in the class room. Also after 5 years you'll have better connections with other teachers and know more about different text books and other teaching materials, and you won't spend so much time just for looking for the information. This of course is zero help for someone his twenties getting his first job as a teacher. |
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maruss Just Starting
Joined: 06 Apr 2007 Posts: 2 Location: Cyprus and Moscow
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 5:14 pm Post subject: New teachers? |
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| Russia is not the place for a newcomer to the profession for many,many reasons: outside Moscow you will earn about enough to live on and maybe save a little which will be worth peanuts when you leave the country and convert it into $ etc.In Moscow you will need to earn much more to survive on and have a daily struggle to earn it,along with millions of others who are fighting to do the same!The ones who have it made in teaching there are the freelancers who are established and sit at home teaching their students who come to them,not the other way round!The cream on the cake always tastes best,but not everyone can have it! |
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Fire_Goddess Guest
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| I am sorry but I have to agree with vitalsigns, on the tone of Helens post. Its as if she is seething with anger and barely containing herself. Then as Rodriguez stated she is harsh with people when under stress. What sort of stressful things occur for a director of a language school, and what has her stress got to do with the teachers? Also what right does she have to lash out at other adults in a supposedly "professional" environment? The woman also tried to give a backhanded insult to mediashark, which seemed to match the backhanded insult posted by another user in reference to an e-mail sent to his/her friend from Helen. So people are well within their rights to warn people against a possibly negative experience. |
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vitalsigns Lounge Wizard
Joined: 25 Dec 2004 Posts: 2784
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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You... agreed... with me? I am stunned. It's a nice feeling though.  |
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yorbcbud Lounge Wizard
Joined: 17 Feb 2006 Posts: 4919 Location: Сорренто, Британская Колумбия, Канада
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Fire_Goddess wrote: | | I am sorry but I have to agree with vitalsigns, on the tone of Helens post. Its as if she is seething with anger and barely containing herself. Then as Rodriguez stated she is harsh with people when under stress. What sort of stressful things occur for a director of a language school, and what has her stress got to do with the teachers? Also what right does she have to lash out at other adults in a supposedly "professional" environment? The woman also tried to give a backhanded insult to mediashark, which seemed to match the backhanded insult posted by another user in reference to an e-mail sent to his/her friend from Helen. So people are well within their rights to warn people against a possibly negative experience. |
Well I think if it was your business, and you saw a few people saying the things they are saying, it would be fair to say that you might get angry too. Like I said, she could be every bit as bad as people are saying. It just doesn't help when uninformed people like ( guess who ), come in with their peanut gallery statements, with no experience, and run down people they know nothing about. I'm sure that any small business in Russia must have a tough go of it. That would explain the stress factor, although she could handle it better, I suppose. The warnings from people who actually know about her are legitimate. |
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surfguy Lounge Wizard
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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| true...and don't we all go through these situations in our own lives? I walked out of my house this morning to my neighbor being mad because my dog ran into his front yard scarring his cat. He tried bullying me while I started out trying to be appologetic and nice and making lite of the situation and saying it won't happen again....and yet he still continued to bully me...which he soon learned that he barked up the wrong tree with me. Life can be humbling sometimes. Problem solved-he won't confront me again and I will keep my dog out of his yard. And in that way we can be niegbors |
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mediashark Moderator
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:09 am Post subject: |
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rodriguez, guys, thanks so much for the posts.
That was just about the only balanced account on the school I've read anywhere so far.
I am not going to sweep my first few posts under the carpet as Helen hopes I will do. I have already done more than my fair share to bring this issue to a discussion that has gone as far as this.
BTW, welcome back, Fire_g. Moderating WTR is not as fun without you. Sigh.  |
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vitalsigns Lounge Wizard
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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| mediashark wrote: |
BTW, welcome back, Fire_g. Moderating WTR is not as fun without you. Sigh.  |
I think Firey has gone through some spiritual rebirth... She agreed with me in this thread. I was totally blown away. I think she will not cause any trouble anymore.  |
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jwilliams Frequent Guest
Joined: 23 Aug 2006 Posts: 11 Location: Baltimore, Maryland
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:38 pm Post subject: Samanatha School Problems |
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My experience with Helen happened back in 2000, and as I wrote in previous posts, the experience was very negative. The fact that she found out about this thread and is upset about it cracks me up! You can't treat people like garbage and think it will never come back to haunt you.
I assure everyone I am being 100% honest about my experience at the Samantha School. Other people may have had good experiences there, but I didn't and know several others who didn't as well. I spent many nights in Moscow with my expat friends crying about the situation and hoping everything was going to work out alright.
It may have happened 7 years ago, but my experience will last a lifetime! Now I guess she is in damage control mode, up to her usually tactics, spewing out personal attacks like she did in her post. How sad, and funny at the same time! Her post shows to me that she has not changed, and resorts to personal attacks when questioned about her practices.
Helen: you can't censor a message board! People have the right to speak freely about their teaching experiences at your school. If you're so upset about the negative comments, perhaps you should seriously reflect upon this and start changing the way you treat people! |
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