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What do Russians think of Mao Zedong?
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bryak
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:15 am    Post subject: What do Russians think of Mao Zedong? Reply with quote

That's the question. . . . Now tell me, please.
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vitalsigns
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:58 am    Post subject: Re: What do Russians think of Mao Zedong? Reply with quote

bryak wrote:
That's the question. . . . Now tell me, please.


What will it change?
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MrSpice
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think 99% of people in Russia don't know who he was. And those that do, probably either think that he is one of many evil communist leaders, unless they are communists. Those who are communists probably feel that he is one of the greats. I would think not too many people care about him anymore.
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mediashark
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:02 pm    Post subject: Re: What do Russians think of Mao Zedong? Reply with quote

vitalsigns wrote:
bryak wrote:
That's the question. . . . Now tell me, please.


What will it change?


Ummm I think they don't think much about Mao... Razz
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Ekaterina
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrSpice wrote:
I think 99% of people in Russia don't know who he was. And those that do, probably either think that he is one of many evil communist leaders, unless they are communists. Those who are communists probably feel that he is one of the greats. I would think not too many people care about him anymore.

You are wrong at all. Everybody in Russia knows who he was and doesn't care about him. We just laugh sometimes and remember a song "Stalin and Mao are brothers forever". By the way I am not sure that all Americans heard about him.
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MrSpice
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ekaterina: I am pretty sure that 99.99% of all Americans have never heard about him and don't care about him. In the US, people are much more interested in the local and national news. In the last few years of rapid economic development in China and India, there's an increased interest in China and India. Russia sometimes gets on the American news when something major happens - like re-nationalization of Yukos or Putin's steps to curtail democracy.
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milonguero
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am a Russian and I personally think that chairman Mao was a monster personally responsible for deaths of millions in his country. Bravo for people of Chile who finally had the guts to bring Pinochet to the court, unfortunately similar court have never happened in China (even posthumously). Totalitarian leaders have to be publically called to responce regardless how they called themselves: national socialists, communists, whatever.
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Ekaterina
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

milonguero: You are more American than Russian. Russian immigrants are absolutely different from real Russian people. So there are some politicians here who cry out similar slogans but they don't have support of the masses.
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MrSpice
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ekaterina: Just because he is an immigrant does not mean that he is wrong. It's well known that Mao just like many other communist leader was responsible for massive attrocities. I knew that even before I immigrated to the US from Russia in 1995. All of this came our during the "Perestroika" years when he learned more and more about the Statlin time and Mao was China's Stalin.
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bryak
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

milonguero wrote:
Totalitarian leaders have to be publically called to responce regardless how they called themselves: national socialists, communists, whatever.


But in China chairman Mao is still a very popular figure. You see his likeness everywhere -- on carrying bags, on taxi cab's dashboards, alarm clocks and watches (mostly weird kitschy products, but everywhere nonetheless).
I thought that because he is still popular in China perhaps he has some followers in Russia, or perhaps some vehement enemies.
What will it change? you ask vitalsigns. Nothing, of course, just curious.

"But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao/you ain't gonna make it with anyone anyhow." - John Lennon.
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MrSpice
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bryak: Don't forget that China is not a free country and is still oficially governed by the communist party, has no free press of any kind. You don't know what people really feel about Mao. Secondly, I assume some in the older generation still remember those times as "good old times"
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Ekaterina
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrSpice: I repeat that we don't care about Mao as well as about your opinion or any Russian immigrant's opinion about him. Your attempts to convince me are useless.
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MrSpice
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ekaterina: With all due respect, I think you either have a reading comprehension problem or don't understand basic English. Please pay closer attention to your English lessons. I said that in the first place that 99% of russians don't care who Mao is and don't know about him.

You should probably care about Russian immigrants' opinions because we are not any worse than you are.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh look Mrspice has been put in his place yet again Laughing And ohhh what do I see, I see mrspice getting rude with ekaterina, how shocking he is making people lose interest in this forum with his rude behaviour, he is sooooooo mean and judgemental. Laughing
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krasatulya
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm curious as to what the guidelines are for being considered a "real Russian". I was unaware that you could cross over nationalities simply by living in another country. Very Happy[/img]
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