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help
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:22 pm    Post subject: maridge Reply with quote

I would like to find myself a russian wife to help me settle in the country. What I want to know is:

* what sort of rights do women have in russia?

* what happens if the marridge does not turn out the way I would like it to: is divorce easy and does she get to keep half of my capital?


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bryak
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 9:38 pm    Post subject: what me worry? Reply with quote

help help . . . you need it my friend.

Every time I see a post like this on the forums I can do nothing but shake my head in wonder and disbelief. Are people really serious when they say they plan to go to Russia to "find a wife" as if they're going to find gold or a matroshka doll? Do people really think women are like objects that they can find and marry just like that, and that Russia is the place to do so simply because they find the stereotypical Russian woman of their dillusional imaginations the most beautiful?

Maybe it's just me, but shouldn't we love the person we marry? Well, yes, you might say, that much is obvious, and perhaps one will find love in Russia. Surely this is possible, but I don't know how you can plan to find the love of your life while on vacation half the world away. Or perhaps these people plan to just pick out a woman as you would pick a puppy from a pet store and make them love you. But human beings are not puppies, I assure you, and you cannot force love to happen between two people -- if this were the case I would have been married years ago.

Do people think that because times are tough in Russia a woman will fall for any man with money? Is that why these strange and lonely men travel halfway across the world to find their "love"? I just don't get it . . . or maybe I do but I don't want to believe that anybody would be so shallow in their belief of what love truly is.

Maybe these people aren't really looking for love no matter what they tell others and tell themselves; maybe they're just franticaly searching for something, someone, to fill that emptiness they feel inside -- well I for one think they are looking in the wrong place. Some people turn to alcohol and drugs; some people turn to television or internet chat; some people turn to Russian brides in order to fill the holes inside where they just don't love themselves enough. Is this right? Is this really so? I don't know . . . but that's what it seems like to me and so it makes me kinda sad to see all these posts all the time.

And maybe I am making an unfair judgement, eh? You tell me. But it doesn't feel so somehow. . . . I think that love can only find you, and it will only do so when the time is right. You cannot force love, or hurry love -- and if you try to what you'll end up with won't really be love at all. You cannot plan on falling in love -- it just kinda happens sometimes, and if you're patient and faithful it will find you, I think.

But then again, maybe I misunderstand and no-one is looking for love at all, yes?

hmmm
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marriage is more than love it is a life!!! And if you just sit and wait for a girl to jump on you then you just might spend your whole life waiting. Your message is of no use and not a reply to the questions i asked.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You would not be able to stay in Russia. You would have to bring your "new wife" back to your own county. Have a look at the laws in your own country for your answers. Idea Idea
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was told having a russian wife and a home in Russia would help me to obtain a residency permit. I would not be the only foreign investor living there; others have done it why shouldn't i b able to?

You have not adressed my questions either.
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bryak
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

help wrote:
Marriage is more than love it is a life!!! And if you just sit and wait for a girl to jump on you then you just might spend your whole life waiting.


I would rather "spend my whole life waiting" than get married for false reasons. And I'm not waiting for anything, I'm just living my life and being happy with whatever it is I have. If I find someone I love I'll get married, if not, oh well . . . I'll make do with vitalsigns Laughing

I like, too, how in your original message you're already talking about divorce. And not about how devastating that would be personally, but how it would affect your "capital". Rolling Eyes

You're rather silly, in my silly opinion . . . and that's why I didn't respond to your question. I swear that this same sort of thing pops up every freakin day on these forums. That's why I went off on that pointless rant. Ignore me if you choose. Go get married for money or because your painfully lonely or whatever reason it is you have in mind. I don't care. Good luck, I guess . . .
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guys. Try to answer the original question.

Look at help's other posts. He is going to buy a farm near Lake Baikal. He needs a Russian wife to help him, as he puts it, 'settle in.'

He asks, quite reasonably, what happens if the marriage goes wrong? Supposing she isn't his idea of a heavy harvestin', crop sprayin' dream woman. Will he lose the farm?

help, I can assure you that there are no punitive alimony and divorce laws in Russia to worry about, like in the US or Europe.

You see, Russians are very socially responsible people. They do not waste the time of courts and the judiciary with petty domestic issues.

Most Russian families have 'business associates'. Should there be a husband who has, shall we say, 'screwed up', he will simply be blown away in a doorway one dark evening. This saves the country and the Govenment any unnecessary strain on public funding.

I know it is often difficult for foreigners to comprehend the role of the Russian husband. After all, there are some 16 million single mothers in Russia, all of whom appear to be bringing up children on their own. What happened to all the husbands?

I don't wish to frighten you, help, but the fact is that many millions of husbands in Russia simply disappear without trace. It is a fact that Russia has a steeply declining population and that male life expectancy is plummeting to around 57.

A google of Russia's demographic meltdown will fill you in.

The disturbing common factor is that all the disappeared men in Russia have at some time been married to Russian women.

Well, that should make you think.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope the Russian woman you find gets you in a head lock and cuts off the flow of oxygen to your brain Razz
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fire_Goddess: Your brain does not get any oxygen without any extra help...
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Tripchik, that's a start, but I would like to hear the view of others too to confirm and expand on this which you wrote:

help, I can assure you that there are no punitive alimony and divorce laws in Russia to worry about, like in the US or Europe.


Also I may be wrong but i do not think there r many of those 'Business Associates' in this part of russia of interest to me.

PS. I am not looking for a rich bitch who spends her time nagging and sopping. I'm rather looking for a clever but simple minded peasant girl with looks and attitude!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I now remember why I gave up on this sort of thing a looooong time ago... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrSpice wrote:
Fire_Goddess: Your brain does not get any oxygen without any extra help...


Why dont you go beat up your wife! Dont talk about me again.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

help wrote:
Thank you Tripchik, that's a start, but I would like to hear the view of others too to confirm and expand on this which you wrote:

help, I can assure you that there are no punitive alimony and divorce laws in Russia to worry about, like in the US or Europe.


Also I may be wrong but i do not think there r many of those 'Business Associates' in this part of russia of interest to me.

PS. I am not looking for a rich bitch who spends her time nagging and sopping. I'm rather looking for a clever but simple minded peasant girl with looks and attitude!


Peasant girl? What time period is this? What you are looking for is a whore, not a wife.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok.. Now we are going to behave. This thread will be split otherwise. This is my first and final warning.
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tripchik
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

help wrote:

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I'm looking for a clever but simple-minded peasant girl with looks and attitude!


Well. I have found just the girl for you. She is here.

But alas, smiling peasant girls with sheaves of corn haven't been seen in Russia since the collective farm days of the 1930s.

It is not possible to fulfil all your search criteria. 'Clever and simple-minded' ??? So a further breakdown is necessary.

Now, 'simple-minded village girls with looks' have mostly been rounded up and taken to the cities to work in 'community service' programmes.

Meanwhile, 'clever village girls with looks' have mostly left for the cities to become the mistress of a 'business associate'.

This leaves any number of village-bound babushkas. But no one can deny that Russian babushkas have 'attitude'. An agrarian babushka could be a very wise choice for a mature man. Farming anything in the permafrost is a real challenge without local knowledge.
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