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Best areas in St Peter to buy a flat
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kerouac
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 6:09 pm    Post subject: Best areas in St Peter to buy a flat Reply with quote

A question for those living in St Peter. If you were buying a flat, which area of St Peter (in and around) would you live in, taking into consideration costs of flats against nice areas. What is the nicest, best located area with decent flat prices?
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MrSpice
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Best areas in St Peter to buy a flat Reply with quote

kerouac wrote:
A question for those living in St Peter. If you were buying a flat, which area of St Peter (in and around) would you live in, taking into consideration costs of flats against nice areas. What is the nicest, best located area with decent flat prices?


Do you speak Russian? What is your goal - i.e., are you going to be working in a particular place? Once you answer those questions, it's easier to make a suggestion.
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kerouac
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not really for me, although in the future I might visit/live etc. It's actually for a friend looking to buy. She'll be moving from Moscow and I'm doing my bit to help her research (from a distance!). The area needs to be affordable (ie not exclusive), but not a rough/uninteresting area. Somewhere maybe close to the business district. Thanks for any advice.
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Eugenia_Kempinsky
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:41 pm    Post subject: flat Reply with quote

Petrogradskaya Site (metro stations Petrogradskaya, Gorkovskaya, Chkalovskaya, Sportivnaya) - if she can afford it.

another good place - area around metro Chernyshevskaya - centrally located, old houses, much of attractions...

embankements of Moika and Fontanka rivers, but not the end of them.
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MrSpice
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The areas that Eugenia mentioned are very expensive.

I know people in St Petersburg that were faced with the same question. They bought an apartment ion the area where I used to live - near metro station "Academicheskaya" It's a direct metro line to Nevsky Prospect and the center (takes 17 minutes by metro train to get to metro station "Plozhad Vosstania" or "Vosstania Square" - right on Nevsky Prospect).

The area is relatively safe. Has some decent schools. Several new apartment buildings were recently constructed nearby. Also, there are some new cafes and mini shopping centers built there.

The overall area is called "Grazhdanka" - virtually everyone in St petersburg knows about it.
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MrSpice
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is the new apartment complex there:

http://grazhdanka-city.spb.ru/nauki19/nauki19.html
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surfguy
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's going to cost you a minimum of $100,000.00 for a 50 sq meter apartment not in the center.
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surfguy
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrSpice wrote:
Here is the new apartment complex there:

http://grazhdanka-city.spb.ru/nauki19/nauki19.html


I would hate to live in a huge complex like this...but such is the life there in St Pete
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kerouac
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your info. I've also heard that Moskovskaya is supposed to be a nice area. I think my friend was hoping more for $70-80K. Maybe it won't be possible. It's unfortunate - finding a place to live is always tough, wherever you live. I'd heard that property in St Petersburg is cheaper than Moscow. Maybe it will be better to rent.
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MrSpice
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

surfguy wrote:
MrSpice wrote:
Here is the new apartment complex there:

http://grazhdanka-city.spb.ru/nauki19/nauki19.html


I would hate to live in a huge complex like this...but such is the life there in St Pete


Some of those new complexes are pretty nice with large apartments and amenities. Well, I bought an apartment here in New York in a large apartment complex. I won't mention the price - you can imagine that it's much higher than prices in St Petersburg...
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surfguy
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes I know all about NY prices and St Pete doesn't even come close. Yes I know that these new apartments offer a lot...I saw a lot of them being built last year and there are some really nice ones. But those are also very expensive...2 bedrooms for $500,00. Prices are becoming comparable to western prices. And this is good...just salaries need to increase. The apartment I rented when I was there was purchased for $250,00.00 and it was nothing special...still needed some improvements. It was nice though-just the exterior of the building was nothing great. I have friends in NY who paid $700k for 500 sq feet. Real Estate is expensive in all major world cities. Which is why I was saying in an earlier post that Russia needs to develope suburbias to increase quality of life.
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surfguy
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

poverty line in San Diego for a family of 4 is $70,000 only 9% of the population own homes. I paid $230,000 in 1999 for a 700 sq foot tear down that is now worth $650,000. The ex got that. Then I paid $420,000.00 for a 1500 sq ft town home in 2004 that is now worth $550,000.00. But I sold it.
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MrSpice
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

surfguy wrote:
poverty line in San Diego for a family of 4 is $70,000 only 9% of the population own homes. I paid $230,000 in 1999 for a 700 sq foot tear down that is now worth $650,000. The ex got that. Then I paid $420,000.00 for a 1500 sq ft town home in 2004 that is now worth $550,000.00. But I sold it.


I remember how San Diego looks in the evening - traffic on all major highways as far as the eye can see... That's because the US realized your vision of good quality of life - everyone lives in the suburbs. The US has become one large suburb. In New York and in Europe, the city is where things are happening, so in stead of spending hours in the car commuting, you can hope on a train and get to work quickly. I like that better.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrSpice wrote:
surfguy wrote:
poverty line in San Diego for a family of 4 is $70,000 only 9% of the population own homes. I paid $230,000 in 1999 for a 700 sq foot tear down that is now worth $650,000. The ex got that. Then I paid $420,000.00 for a 1500 sq ft town home in 2004 that is now worth $550,000.00. But I sold it.


I remember how San Diego looks in the evening - traffic on all major highways as far as the eye can see... That's because the US realized your vision of good quality of life - everyone lives in the suburbs. The US has become one large suburb. In New York and in Europe, the city is where things are happening, so in stead of spending hours in the car commuting, you can hope on a train and get to work quickly. I like that better.


yes sitting in traffic is not good...but not everyone does and I certainly do not. San Diego is still too small to rate a subway...and the traffic heavy hear-really it's not for that long except for to a couple of areas. But it's different things for different people...huge cities Like NY require people to live in town. I would love to have the house in the country, full time home in the suburbs, condo in the city, and a house abroad. Ultimate dream!
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vox16
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pay attention to construction quality - not minor imperfections but something like facing brick wall falling off ( as being not properly attached to bearing concrete wall )

http://www.yandex.ru/yandsearch?text=+%EE%F2%E2%E0%EB%E8%EB%E0%F1%FC+%F1%F2%E5%ED%E0+%EA%E8%F0%EF%E8%F7+%EB%FD%EA&stype=www

There are also signals that St.Peterburg estate market is undergoind some correction now.
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