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charles · Lounge Lizard Joined: 11 Mar 2006 Posts: 179 Location: USA

Thanks, yeah I hope my landlady will have better luck than I did. I'll get that document printed so she'll have the proper ammunition. Thanks for pointing out the relevant paragraphs, too. Is going to the police an option as well, or a bad idea? I thought I read here that the police were also able to register foriegners.

goDutch · Frequent Guest Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 64

charles · Lounge Lizard Joined: 11 Mar 2006 Posts: 179 Location: USA

Well, I still haven't registered. I went with my landlady to another post office yesterday, and she asked if they could register me. The first thing they asked me was, "When did you arrive in Russia?" I replied that I arrived in July, and she said that they can't register me, I have to go the immigration office. That's the exact same thing they said at the other post office. So, I think they have been told that they can only register foreigners who have just arrived in the country. I don't know if that's a correct interpretation of the law, but that's how it's being taken here.

My landlady is going to call the immigration office to see if they can register me, but I already tried at one office, and the answer was no, because I have a business visa.

surfguy · Lounge Wizard Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 6996

Charles...if you arrived in July...then you had 3 business days to register...which you have exceeded this (?) perhaps this is the reason as to why no one wants to register you. But sounds like the post office are confused too as to the rules. Please keeps us posted as to what the out come is

goDutch · Frequent Guest Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 64

Charles, I can suggest the following:
1. You can try to submit a formal application for the registration. Then the immigration office has to react on it. Even if they do not register you, you will have a proof that you did your best.
2. In the site http://www.realrussia.co.uk/visa/register_visas2.asp they say that Novosibirsk is a difficult city, but

gomer · WayToRussified Joined: 30 Mar 2007 Posts: 445

One suggestion is to spend your first night at a hotel in Moscow. They'll register you, although probably only for the night you stay there. Still, you'll be registered and in a Russian government database so it is not like you didn't try and you're attempting to sneak in the country.

charles · Lounge Lizard Joined: 11 Mar 2006 Posts: 179 Location: USA

I registered in Moscow when I arrived, all according to the rules, and there was no problem. I will be staying for at least six months in Novosibirsk, so paying for hotel is out of the question. One option is to leave the country and come back directly to Novosibirsk & register right away. Then my entry card will have a more recent date. The only problem is, going to the countries closest to Novosibirsk will also require more paperwork, and it would be expensive flying all the way to Europe just for this.

The other option is to make the formal application for registration, but I have already exceeded the 3 days here. My registration in Moscow officially ended July 27th. I also have the PDF copy of my official invitation, which was sent from the inviting company (Европарнас). It lists Novosibirsk as one of the cities I will visit. I should have brought it with me when I tried to register two weeks ago at the immigration office (УФМС). It might have helped, to prove that I have a legitimate invitation to be in Novosibirsk.

charles · Lounge Lizard Joined: 11 Mar 2006 Posts: 179 Location: USA

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charles · Lounge Lizard Joined: 11 Mar 2006 Posts: 179 Location: USA

gomer · WayToRussified Joined: 30 Mar 2007 Posts: 445

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manas_International_Airport

I don't know how up-to-date the information is, but it might help. If you decide to go there, I suggest you call the Kyrgyzstan Embassy in Washington D.C. ( remember the time difference and they should speak English ) and ask about a U.S. citizen getting a visa on arrival at Bishkek airport. Do this before you spend money on buying air tickets. Call whatever airline you choose to fly and ask will they let you on the plane without a Kyrgyzstan visa. They might not be aware that you can get a visa on arrival and would refuse to board you without a visa already in your passport.