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anoki
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 Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 1:21 am Post subject: Do you miss the USSR? |
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Is nostalgia a part of your life, or is it just the pensioners yearning for that regime?
Do you sometimes wish USSR never broke up? |
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SerSo
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:51 pm Post subject: Re: Do you miss the USSR? |
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| anoki wrote: | Is nostalgia a part of your life, or is it just the pensioners yearning for that regime?
Do you sometimes wish USSR never broke up? |
Honestly - yes, I personally do, though I never idealized the ways how things were done in the Soviet Union. I also admit some Russians may take the opposite stance on the subject.
I am 36; when USSR ceased to exist I was 21.
BTW, if most pensioners who actually lived almost all their life in those times yearn for it I would give them more credit than to those who are clueless about the real life in Soviet Union. |
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solis
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| Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:28 am Post subject: |
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Honestly, i wish it did stay in place and they never broke up. I just seems to me that Russia let go of a little bit of it's cultural past and i kinda miss that.
I myself liked the Soviet Union. |
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surfguy
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| solis wrote: | Honestly, i wish it did stay in place and they never broke up. I just seems to me that Russia let go of a little bit of it's cultural past and i kinda miss that.
I myself liked the Soviet Union. |
Russia is going back to Soviet times...with out having to support the republics...but come on the USSR was just a brief moment in Russian history |
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yorbcbud
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| Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:00 am Post subject: |
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| solis wrote: | I just seems to me that Russia let go of a little bit of it's cultural past and i kinda miss that.
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Can you explain this a little better? Cultural past is cultural past. How did Russia let go of it's past? I'm curious. |
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solis
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| Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:27 am Post subject: |
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Hm, i probably chose the wrong words to use there. How should i put this.
I thought certain aspects of the USSR were better off, but that's just my point of view. One thing i can say i miss about the culture is The Soviet ensembles. It's pretty rare to find or hear them now.
The all around culture and style of everything in the era is what i miss most, and while much of it still exists today, it's just not the same to me.
All in all i just liked how the Soviet Union ran things.
Kind of how Heavy metal still exists in the modern world, i just wish much of the Soviet influence would have still been in place. Whenever i talk about Russian politics i hear too many people who confuse the topics with too much of the US propaganda. I just don't believe my ears when i hear teen age kids talking about wanting to be Communist.
That's all fine and dandy with me. Good for them, but i really hope the people know what they are talking about and believe in what they are saying. I think if people actually saw what the Soviet Union really was they would understand it better.
I just think the culture is too misunderstood these days, and while i enjoy the Soviet nature, it tends to rape me of that feeling of pride and solace i take in remembering it when i hear people saying misunderstood things about it.
I know it will always happen and it still happened much back then, but there are times when i just wish i could turn back the clock on the era.
I hope that helped.
PS: If anyone knows where i can find or listen to the Soviet Ensembles or even better yet, old world Russian Shanson, i would be very grateful. It's just part of that culture i was talking about that i love very much. I'm an old world person if no one can tell yet. |
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vitalsigns
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| I had to pinch myself to make sure I didn't fall asleep and saw a nightmare. |
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yorbcbud
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| solis wrote: | Hm, i probably chose the wrong words to use there. How should i put this.
I thought certain aspects of the USSR were better off, but that's just my point of view. One thing i can say i miss about the culture is The Soviet ensembles. It's pretty rare to find or hear them now.
The all around culture and style of everything in the era is what i miss most, and while much of it still exists today, it's just not the same to me.
All in all i just liked how the Soviet Union ran things.
Kind of how Heavy metal still exists in the modern world, i just wish much of the Soviet influence would have still been in place. Whenever i talk about Russian politics i hear too many people who confuse the topics with too much of the US propaganda. I just don't believe my ears when i hear teen age kids talking about wanting to be Communist.
That's all fine and dandy with me. Good for them, but i really hope the people know what they are talking about and believe in what they are saying. I think if people actually saw what the Soviet Union really was they would understand it better.
I just think the culture is too misunderstood these days, and while i enjoy the Soviet nature, it tends to rape me of that feeling of pride and solace i take in remembering it when i hear people saying misunderstood things about it.
I know it will always happen and it still happened much back then, but there are times when i just wish i could turn back the clock on the era.
I hope that helped.
PS: If anyone knows where i can find or listen to the Soviet Ensembles or even better yet, old world Russian Shanson, i would be very grateful. It's just part of that culture i was talking about that i love very much. I'm an old world person if no one can tell yet. |
Well it seems to me that it is mostly older Russians who miss those days, but that tends to happen when you grew up in those times. I miss earlier days here myself. Seems that moral standards were somewhat higher then. People seemed to have more respect for each other. The elderly were revered and treated better in the older days. I am thinking these are the things that you are referring to. I am sure that less people starved then and most everyone had a home, and a job, regardless of what it paid. It appears to me that the western influence has brought a measure of greed into the equation, and people tend to climb over the poor to get what they think they should have. And I also enjoy the older music better than that crap that passes for music these days. ( ie rap ) Here's what I think you were looking for?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xobiYchwLQc
http://english.sovmusic.ru/
The first site isn't that old, the second has very old Soviet music. |
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solis
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| Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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| yorbcbud wrote: | | Seems that moral standards were somewhat higher then. People seemed to have more respect for each other. The elderly were revered and treated better in the older days. |
Aiy, no doubt. I can assure you things like the Skinheads wouldn't be running around. Back in those days they would end up right where they belong in a flash instant. Jail.
It's a shame that people can't have the same respect for one another like before.
And yes, that music was just what i was looking for, Thanks a ton. I never thought i would find it in the form of mp3s though  |
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yorbcbud
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| Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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| solis wrote: |
And yes, that music was just what i was looking for, Thanks a ton. I never thought i would find it in the form of mp3s though |
Just goes to show you. There are still people around who care about the old Russian culture. It's nice to see. We still see it in the Russian and Ukrainian seniors around here. They are some of the nicest people I have ever met. Old fashioned nice. 
P.S. The Russian national anthem is my favourite, next to my own. |
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RusskiCanadian23
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| Nice music! That site even has the "Tachyanka"! Cool! |
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Andrejboskov
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| solis wrote: | Honestly, i wish it did stay in place and they never broke up. I just seems to me that Russia let go of a little bit of it's cultural past and i kinda miss that.
I myself liked the Soviet Union. |
I agree with you fully. Russia today is not Russian. It's been Americanized, with McDonalds fastfood, rap, hip hop, and skinheads (about every negative element of capitalism). My family left in 1992 when I was 12 years old, after the USSR broke up and the country began to slip into self-destruction. I visited Russia last year and its nothing I remembered. The society has become so deteriorated with hatred and animosity towards one another, a culture better suited for the streets of Detroit.
The Soviet Union wasn't like that. Westerners often think that the Soviet Union was some Nazi-era state and that if the Germans had won WWII, the 3rd Reich would have looked something like the USSR. That's completely opposite of the truth. Sure the Soviet economy wasn't anything to boast about and most people were poor by western standards, but Soviet culture was IMENSELY superior to the culture today. Soviet culture was in more ways than not, an extension of traditional Russian culture, based on peace, love, and friendship. The Soviet Union may not have had a high standard of living, but it had it's dignity. Why do you think the Middle East and Islam is so hateful of the west? Because they want to stand up for their cultural values which have intertwined their society for thousands of years. The only other option for them is to be turned into a cesspool like Russia has been.
So back to the original question, do I miss the USSR? The answer is a solid yes. |
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solis
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| Andrejboskov wrote: | | I agree with you fully. Russia today is not Russian. It's been Americanized, with McDonalds fastfood, rap, hip hop, and skinheads (about every negative element of capitalism) |
Well i do agree that it took some of the worst points of Capitalism and put it on display in their country, but as an economy, they really aren't falling apart. They are doing much better right now than they were not too long ago.
I really don't think Mcdonalds will kill anything. I mean, it's in other countries and all and people in those countries just do a bit more of something with that food that too many Americans don't. Eat it in moderation. I mean, it's not really a countries problem if people want to eat it as much as they do. It's all up to the person eating it. I mean, it's not like there weren't things as bad as a greasy burger in Russia before Mcdonalds. But yes, i don't eat there because their food tastes like Puke and frankly it's been a fact that Mcdonalds food is a health hazard in many cases.
Know why their fries taste different these days? Because they used to flavor them with Beef Extract. Think about that for a moment.
And Rap & Hip hop have always sucked by default 
But as for the skin heads, like i said before. If the Soviet Union were still around, they would all be in jail. I mean there are skin heads in America, but they are just punks who wear plaid mini skirts over jeans and have piercings in every part of their body. Nothing really to get afraid of, unless you're afraid of hearing how much Green Day sucks. They really aren't a problem in america and pretty much just want to be noticed and out do eachother. Russian skinheads just took the stereo type and went to the EXTREME with it. So it really did become worse when they started over there.
Either way, There are a lot of ugly things that have to do with Capitalism and Russia, unfortunately took some of the worst aspects of it. I'm just waiting for a new Soviet Era. I notice not too many Russians are that happy with some of the Capitalist ideals. |
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Ender
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| I'm pretty happy with new Russia even if i born and lived in USSR. I can remember brainwash from our shool teacher. Ideology - bulls*t. Nostalgia? No f*g way! |
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matroskin
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Those people who posted that they miss USSR abviously did not live in USSR, at least not their conscious adult life. When USSR collapsed i was 12, but some of the stories that i have learned from history by hearing both my parents and doing my research is quite astounding. One thing i can say is that (most) of our parents did a wonderful job by shielding us as children from soviet realities that they had to deal with every day, starting from standing for 5 hours in the line for a kilogram of oranges in winter under -20C cold, to dealing with corrupted, humiliating system at their work place (my mom was a teacher, but it was common across all professions). I won't even mention what people had to live through in the 60's and 70's and earlier. Just read some history, there is plenty on the internet, in both Russian and English.
Don't be fooled by the romanticism often portrayed in the soviet movies of the time. While these movies were (and are) great, they show brief moments of happiness that Russians occasionally got, when they could for a few hours forget about all the "wonders" of the USSR they had to deal with on a daily basis. |
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