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Russian as spoken in Belarus

 
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manxi
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:32 pm    Post subject: Russian as spoken in Belarus Reply with quote

Hi

Do people from Belarus speak a different form of Russian to people in Russia? (I know they have their own language too). I have found a teacher who is from Belarus and says her mother tongue is Russian but I'm not too sure about this. I did learn some Russian from a Ukrainian woman a few years ago who told me her mother tongue was Russian but a lot of what she taught me was actually Ukrainian or not quite correct Russian.


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mss
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Native russians can understand Belorussian and Ukranian languages quite good. But if you learned Russian and it is not your native languge - you will have a big problem understanding those languages.

But one more thing - nearly half of Ukrainian (eastern territories) and most Belorussian citizens speaks russian in everyday life. Though It's not pure russian - it is some dialect.
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Rick
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

About 2 years ago i saw a documentary made by students from Groningen in Belarus, at their friend's university in Minsk. Besides the story on this student's organisation's activism for democratization, one of the subjects was repression of the native/traditional Belorussian language. It seemed that it was not even the formal language of the country, unlike in Ukraine.
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manxi
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm thanks for the replies. Still not sure whether this is a good idea. It will be difficult enough making myself understood with an English accent without using a dialect as well.

In Germany, different regions have their own dialect, in some cases pronounciation is just a bit different and a few words vary but in other regions dialects can be so strong that I found them almost impossible to understand at first. So when you learn German, it makes sense to learn Hochdeutsch which everyone understands and try to acquire an accent that is easily understood.

Is there a regional variety of Russian which is generally considered to be the purest or "best" in the sense that it is sounds good and is grammatically correct? For example, in the UK I would say standard English (grammar and vocab) with RP (received pronounciation) would be understood everywhere although that is not the spoken variety of the majority of the population. It would make more sense for a foreigner to try and learn an approximation of that variety of UK English.
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Чебурашка
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe in Russia it was St. Petersburg that has this reputation. But maybe let the Russian forumites quarrel over that for us Razz
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Ekaterina
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no matter to quarrel about. It is definitely St. Petersburg.
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manxi
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ekaterina, I struggled along through my Assimil CD course with different sounding Russian voices on it but I wouldn't have a clue about the origin of the speakers. Can you explain what the difference is in the way Russian is spoken in Moscow and St. Petersburg?

I am a bit tempted to learn an obscurer variety though just to see the expression on people's faces. Love to hear a Russian speaking with a Glaswegian accent for example, not that I would understand a word of it!
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Ekaterina
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moscovites pronounce sound A very open and drawl. Moskva is like MAAskvAA. I exaggerate, Moscow dialect is not so awful.
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vitalsigns
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Annual cleaning Smile

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I♥Russia
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was watching TV and there was some type of doctor that could help you lose your accent and learn another. I don't know if that is so true. Confused
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vitalsigns
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Annual cleaning Smile

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mister_wizzz
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ekaterina wrote:
There is no matter to quarrel about. It is definitely St. Petersburg.


You are all wrong, the purest russian is spoken in France ... by the descents of Nicola II' family Wink
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vitalsigns
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Annual cleaning Smile

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I♥Russia
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vitalsigns wrote:
I♥Russia wrote:
I was watching TV and there was some type of doctor that could help you lose your accent and learn another. I don't know if that is so true. Confused


It must be some head trauma doctor. Or a psychiatrist....

Laughing

On a serious note, I know that some use hypnosis to learn a language or any other skills.



If that works, it is probably super expensive. I do believe that it was a speech doctor.
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