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Cost of Living

 
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DaHjo
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 9:05 pm    Post subject: Cost of Living Reply with quote

I understand the cost of living would be LESS in Russia correct?

The exchange rate from US dollars to Russian Rubels looks rather inviting on first glance , without any first hand knowledge.

What does 1,000 dollars turn into over there in laymen terms?
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Rick
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

moved.
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Zach10791
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1,000 US Dollars converts in to 26,870 Russian Rubles. Smile
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overseas_expat
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Less than what?
As compared to where?
For what kind of standard of living?
Where in Russia? Murmansk, Moscow, or Suzdal?
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mediashark
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1000USD is considered a good monthly salary in Moscow (a few hundred above entry-level for a qualified worker), and it's a dream for many people living outside Moscow, where many live on less than a couple of hundred a month.
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surfguy
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mediashark
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many people rely on others for housing, or sometimes the apartment/house has been inherited so they don't need to pay rent, real estate is horribly expensive these days. One can do without a car in a major city, shop for cheap groceries at markets, do without luxuries etc. My previous Russian teacher said 500USD/month was more than enough for him. Here you either live very cheaply or very lavishly, but fortunately there is a growing middle-class.
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wwwadim
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Salaries in Russia rather differ.

Your wage as a professional hospital nurse (seniority 5+ years) in regional clinic (200 miles from Moscow) may be 80-120$/month or as a JAVA programmer (seniority 2+ years) in Moscow may be 2500-3000$/month after taxes.

Also cost of Living in Russia depends on place where you live. Cost of living at the Far East greater cost in European Russia in 5-10 times.
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MrSpice
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

surfguy wrote:
I was told that it is common to make $1000,00 a month now in St Pete and in the Moscow. I think of this and say Wow I should move and retire to Russia. Had I met my What was I thinking when GF 3 years ago that would have been easy to do (damm it!) I don't see how people are able to afford the real estate, or cars, or rent, etc. I mean my GF just paid cash for her aprtment, and I know she borrowed most of it from family members-how do people in Russia on even $1000.00 a month afford to do anything?


In St Pertersburg, $700 is considered to be a very good salary for most jobs. Prices for groceries and services are much lower outside of the city center. I know a guy who has 20+ years experience as a mechanical engineer. He works a chief mechanical engineer at a major plant. His salary is about $530/month.

To make a lot of money, one has to be involved in some kind of private business, work for a western firm as financial analyst, software engineer, etc. or have some kind of connections in high places.

People make substantially more in Moscow where the cost of living is also much higher.

As other people mentioned, average people that feel that they live well, usually have apartments they inherited from their relatives who received them in the Soviet Times. I know a couple of people in St Petersburg that sublet the apartments their inherited from their parents for $300/month
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surfguy
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With Real Estate prices so high there, I don't really see a future for so many Russians.
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surfguy
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so how do ex pats make it/survive over there?
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Ronin
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, in the corner of Russia that I'm aware of, housing prices have more than doubled in the last couple of years and there are more expensive cars about. Yet, at the same time the wages have not nearly kept up with this. For the average Russian, it was difficult making ends meet a few years ago. My wife marvels at how people make it now.

Ronin
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blaked
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You see, it all depends on whether or not you own a flat (or live with mom and dad, for that matter.) 1000 bucks a month is great if you don't have to pay rent - it means that basically all of that money can get spent on food clothes and entertainment. Granted, clothes are more expensive than in the US but it's ok to wear the same shirt 3 days in a row. Travel expenses cost almost nothing; people here are implying that you neeed a car. You don't need a car in Moscow if you live near the metro - a car is just a status symbol. Of course, if you live 15 minutes from the metro by bus and you don't want to stand outside in -20 C weather, a car is a necessity. I can do pretty well on about 700 USD a month here, but rental prices have shot through the roof recently. When I was first here in 2003 you could get an unrenovated 1-room flat 10 minutes from an outer metro station for 250 a month; an unrenovated 2 room flat in the center cost 600. Now you're looking at paying 400 for the 1 room outside the center and 900 for the 2 room inside the center. On the other hand, the premium you pay for renovation has slightly decreased.
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