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jo jo 7
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| nikir wrote: | | jo jo 7 wrote: | Kolobed, I am not trying to be negative about your visit in Russia, but(very good resource) my uncle says:
1. You are still a "Russian citizen" and they don't care about your American citizenship.
2. They could detain you there for a long time.
3.. You could be considered a deserter if you left Russia for the US in the time of drafting.
4. Have money to pay them off with.
5. If you don't have money then be prepared to serve 2 years in the Russian military.
Some advice, if you own a house in the USA, cover your furniture and talk to your insurance company or your mortagage company before you leave.
You might not be back for two years. lol |
You know one of the most idiotic things that anybody can say is "I don't want to / I don't mean to sound......... but. Total bullshit!
Who is this uncle of yours anyway, and what qualifications does he have to offer this wise and unsolicited advice? Kolobed is only too aware already of all this. His question originally was regarding renouncing his citizenship.
Are you a complete fuckwit or just masquerading as one? |
No Nikir, I am a woman and you are a jerk. Nice choice of words from a lawyer.
Kolobed, take this as advice and check first before leaving. My resource is reliable. |
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nikir
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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| You are as much of a woman as Markus in the whole current state of play here. Neither of you have anything to say worth considering. |
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jo jo 7
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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| nikir wrote: | | You are as much of a woman as Markus in the whole current state of play here. Neither of you have anything to say worth considering. |
Keep being a jerk, Nikir. I am more woman than you will ever know. |
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nikir
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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| jojo, you keep placing so much emphasis on gender. Really it's irrelevant. Dura est' dura, to keep it gender balanced, durak est' durak. V konce koncov ty dura! |
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nikir
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Who is this uncle of yours anyway, and what qualifications does he have to offer this wise and unsolicited advice? |
Ignore that question. It's just dawned on me, obviously from the HORSES mouth. Who can argue with that? |
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nikir
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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Keep being a jerk, Nikir. I am more woman than you will ever know. |
Or have the slightest desire to! |
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kolobed
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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| jo jo 7 wrote: | Kolobed, I am not trying to be negative about your visit in Russia, but(very good resource) my uncle says:
1. You are still a "Russian citizen" and they don't care about your American citizenship.
2. They could detain you there for a long time.
3.. You could be considered a deserter if you left Russia for the US in the time of drafting.
4. Have money to pay them off with.
5. If you don't have money then be prepared to serve 2 years in the Russian military.
Some advice, if you own a house in the USA, cover your furniture and talk to your insurance company or your mortagage company before you leave.
You might not be back for two years. lol |
yea, i know all of this. i'm not going anywhere until my russian citizenship is officially renounced. |
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goDutch
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| kolobed wrote: | | ... that is all i wanted to know. |
For information.
Renounicng Russian citizenship requires a statement from a tax office that one does not owe taxes in Russia. This is a special version of the statement: "... for those renouncing Russian citizenship". Normally, tax offices provide you with the "standard" version, and they are not aware of the "special" version. Mak it sure that the tax office understands what you want. Otherwise, they will give you the "standard" version, which will most probably be rejected by the consulate. The "special" version contains passport data, while the "standard" does not. |
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surfguy
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| kolobed wrote: | | jo jo 7 wrote: | Kolobed, I am not trying to be negative about your visit in Russia, but(very good resource) my uncle says:
1. You are still a "Russian citizen" and they don't care about your American citizenship.
2. They could detain you there for a long time.
3.. You could be considered a deserter if you left Russia for the US in the time of drafting.
4. Have money to pay them off with.
5. If you don't have money then be prepared to serve 2 years in the Russian military.
Some advice, if you own a house in the USA, cover your furniture and talk to your insurance company or your mortagage company before you leave.
You might not be back for two years. lol |
yea, i know all of this. i'm not going anywhere until my russian citizenship is officially renounced. |
Yes kolobed...be careful...just spoke with a friend of mine whom was recently a attache at our Embassy there in Moscow...you could be very well be at risk...but you should contact to the embassy and see what the situation is and get advice...you are not the only one in this position |
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Fire_Goddess
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Wont you have a hard time trying to get a visa to go to a country in which youve recently renounced citizenship of? I know that its advised that you do not renounce U.S. citizenship because there is a good chance you wont be granted a visa ever. Its like a form of petty pay back. So could the same be true for Russian who renounce?  |
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kolobed
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| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:34 am Post subject: |
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| goDutch wrote: | | kolobed wrote: | | ... that is all i wanted to know. |
For information.
Renounicng Russian citizenship requires a statement from a tax office that one does not owe taxes in Russia. This is a special version of the statement: "... for those renouncing Russian citizenship". Normally, tax offices provide you with the "standard" version, and they are not aware of the "special" version. Mak it sure that the tax office understands what you want. Otherwise, they will give you the "standard" version, which will most probably be rejected by the consulate. The "special" version contains passport data, while the "standard" does not. |
thanks, i'll definitely keep that in mind. i'm working with my immigration attorney on this matter, so she is preparing all the documents. but i'll be sure to mention it to her. did you go through a lawyer or just do it yourself? |
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goDutch
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... did you go through a lawyer or just do it yourself? |
Did it myself.
This required several trips to Russia. |
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jo jo 7
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| nikir wrote: | | jojo, you keep placing so much emphasis on gender. Really it's irrelevant. Dura est' dura, to keep it gender balanced, durak est' durak. V konce koncov ty dura! |
Is there any reason why you must reply to me in Russian when you know I am just learning? Are you afraid to say it or something? |
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jo jo 7
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| nikir wrote: | | nikir wrote: |
Who is this uncle of yours anyway, and what qualifications does he have to offer this wise and unsolicited advice? |
Ignore that question. It's just dawned on me, obviously from the HORSES mouth. Who can argue with that? |
Yes, I will ignore your silly question.
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jo jo 7
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| nikir wrote: | | jo jo 7 wrote: |
Keep being a jerk, Nikir. I am more woman than you will ever know. |
Or have the slightest desire to! |
 Keep on flattering yourself. |
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